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pipcomix:
tsrabbits:
followthebluebell:
chickenkeeping:
tinysaurus-rex:
as a note for those who don’t know why heritage breeds are so good: they aren’t bred to overproduce. they’re bred for health and longevity. a production leghorn lays over 300 eggs a year and will live MAYBE three years. usually dying of some horrible reproductive illness, even in a good environment. the production meat hybrids get so meaty so quickly that they can’t physically live passed a few months, eight months is the absolute max before their legs stop being able to carry them or their heart gives out. they can’t breed on their own, they don’t live long enough.
heritage breed chickens must average over six years to be considered heritage. they’re hardy birds that lay fewer eggs, often 250 or less. there are many breeds bred for meat, but they grow slowly and breed on their own. they can live long, full lives. there are dual purpose breeds. these heritage breeds have valuable, unique genetics that not only benefit us humans, but their species as well! we have breeds that can withstand frigid winters, fight off disease thanks to breeders breeding for immunity, live far longer than junglefowl (what chickens were bred from thousands of hears ago), and all sorts of cool things. these unique genes hugely benefit science.
corperate hatcheries don’t breed for these things, they might have birds that they claim are heritage breeds, but they almost always have production mixed in. they breed on a massive, uncaring scale. by banning facebook sales, ARAs are saying a big “fuck you” to breeders who are just trying to keep a breed alive and maybe make a living doing so. although i rarely meet breeders who make more money than they pour into those birds. yes, there are bad breeders, but there are a lot of really awesome breeders. all big hatcheries are bad. the decision to ban animal sales directly benefits those bad hatcheries, and none of the breeders.
tinysaurus-rex:
congrats to the ARAs who got facebook to ban animal sales. shortly before then, many rare heritage chicken breeds were getting much needed attention to save the breeds thanks to various agricultural facebook pages highligting them. but now, with the ban of animal sales on facebook, those heritage breeds have become damn near impossible to find again. guess what that means? the breeds will begin dying out again. people will go back to hatcheries who mass produce unhealthy chicken breeds in horrible conditions. folks will always buy chickens, but now instead of buying them from ethical breeders on facebook they’ll be supporting a terrible industry, woohoo.
hope y’all are proud.
this is happening with pigeons as well and its terrible. it was already damn near impossible to find a good pigeon breeder but now it IS impossible since all the groups are getting shut down, facebook was one of the few places you could meet some breeders, other than meeting them at exhibitions or clubs in person. it sure is significantly speeding up the decline of the already-scarce hobby of keeping pigeons, thats for sure
It’s hit the reptile and amphibian hobby hard too. We used to have a page to vet buyers/sellers. No one wants to buy a sick animal or support someone who treats their animals poorly. That page was removed, taking out years of reviews.
It’s also going to have a huge impact on genetic diversity since it limits our ability to match animals. Bearded dragons are intensely inbred; the ability to find good lines was essential to correcting this.
It’s happening in rabbits too. And I’d like to echo ALL of these points because they’re good.
Although who are we kidding? The elimination of specific breeds, and animal keeping as a whole, is 100% a goal of the ARA movement.
Sheep as well! The Florida Cracker Sheep group on there still has a lot of cool info but its damn hard to hook up with breeders except in PMs and even then … fb messaging sucks, ppls PM settings vary, and even being like “check out this sheep. PM me” is considered a Suspect Post these days :/

pipcomix:
tsrabbits:
followthebluebell:
chickenkeeping:
tinysaurus-rex:
as a note for those who don’t know why heritage breeds are so good: they aren’t bred to overproduce. they’re bred for health and longevity. a production leghorn lays over 300 eggs a year and will live MAYBE three years. usually dying of some horrible reproductive illness, even in a good environment. the production meat hybrids get so meaty so quickly that they can’t physically live passed a few months, eight months is the absolute max before their legs stop being able to carry them or their heart gives out. they can’t breed on their own, they don’t live long enough.
heritage breed chickens must average over six years to be considered heritage. they’re hardy birds that lay fewer eggs, often 250 or less. there are many breeds bred for meat, but they grow slowly and breed on their own. they can live long, full lives. there are dual purpose breeds. these heritage breeds have valuable, unique genetics that not only benefit us humans, but their species as well! we have breeds that can withstand frigid winters, fight off disease thanks to breeders breeding for immunity, live far longer than junglefowl (what chickens were bred from thousands of hears ago), and all sorts of cool things. these unique genes hugely benefit science.
corperate hatcheries don’t breed for these things, they might have birds that they claim are heritage breeds, but they almost always have production mixed in. they breed on a massive, uncaring scale. by banning facebook sales, ARAs are saying a big “fuck you” to breeders who are just trying to keep a breed alive and maybe make a living doing so. although i rarely meet breeders who make more money than they pour into those birds. yes, there are bad breeders, but there are a lot of really awesome breeders. all big hatcheries are bad. the decision to ban animal sales directly benefits those bad hatcheries, and none of the breeders.
tinysaurus-rex:
congrats to the ARAs who got facebook to ban animal sales. shortly before then, many rare heritage chicken breeds were getting much needed attention to save the breeds thanks to various agricultural facebook pages highligting them. but now, with the ban of animal sales on facebook, those heritage breeds have become damn near impossible to find again. guess what that means? the breeds will begin dying out again. people will go back to hatcheries who mass produce unhealthy chicken breeds in horrible conditions. folks will always buy chickens, but now instead of buying them from ethical breeders on facebook they’ll be supporting a terrible industry, woohoo.
hope y’all are proud.
this is happening with pigeons as well and its terrible. it was already damn near impossible to find a good pigeon breeder but now it IS impossible since all the groups are getting shut down, facebook was one of the few places you could meet some breeders, other than meeting them at exhibitions or clubs in person. it sure is significantly speeding up the decline of the already-scarce hobby of keeping pigeons, thats for sure
It’s hit the reptile and amphibian hobby hard too. We used to have a page to vet buyers/sellers. No one wants to buy a sick animal or support someone who treats their animals poorly. That page was removed, taking out years of reviews.
It’s also going to have a huge impact on genetic diversity since it limits our ability to match animals. Bearded dragons are intensely inbred; the ability to find good lines was essential to correcting this.
It’s happening in rabbits too. And I’d like to echo ALL of these points because they’re good.
Although who are we kidding? The elimination of specific breeds, and animal keeping as a whole, is 100% a goal of the ARA movement.
Sheep as well! The Florida Cracker Sheep group on there still has a lot of cool info but its damn hard to hook up with breeders except in PMs and even then … fb messaging sucks, ppls PM settings vary, and even being like “check out this sheep. PM me” is considered a Suspect Post these days :/
