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So, first of all, it’s important to note that AO3 doesn’t run these collections, or any others to my knowledge. AO3 hosts them. That’s an important distinction, because, if you have a problem with AO3’s posting guidelines, you need to be very clear what it is you are criticizing. It’s neither fair nor useful to call out AO3 for running a collection of works you object to, because they absolutely don’t.

So let’s rephrase your question: How do I feel about AO3 hosting collections of pedophilic works and defending their hosting of such works?

How do I, personally, feel about it? Well, friend, I think that’s kind of a silly question. AO3 was founded with the express purpose of hosting any fannish work that anyone wanted to post to it, provided the work was legal and belonged to the poster, and to then defend the legal rights of the creator to create and publish the work. That is literally what AO3 is for. That’s what the people who made it designed it to do, that’s how the people who run it direct its resources, and that’s what the people who post their work to it expect of it.

So asking what I think of AO3 hosting any particular kind of fannish work and defending their hosting of it is sort of like asking what I think of a pickle jar containing pickles. I don’t know, man. It’s a pickle jar. It’s got pickles in it. If it didn’t have pickles in it, it wouldn’t be a pickle jar, you know?

That’s not to say people aren’t entitled to have problems with AO3’s goals and policies. But those goals and policies aren’t going to change, because those goals and policies are what AO3 is. So whether or not I like that pedophilic works exist, they will continue to be hosted on AO3 as long as AO3 exists to host them. And if you or anyone else has a problem with that, the solution isn’t to tell AO3 to stop being AO3. If you want a jar that isn’t full of pickles, get a different jar. And if you want a fanwork hosting platform that doesn’t host works you don’t like, make a new hosting platform.

I’m not being facetious or condescending when I say “make a new hosting platform.” I’m totally serious. AO3 was created by fans because the existing platforms didn’t meet their needs. If the existing platforms, AO3 included, don’t meet the needs of a group of fans now, then that group should seek out a platform that does, or they should create one. Hell, AO3’s code is all open source! Anyone who wants to create an AO3 clone and limit what can be posted to it can do exactly that. But railing against AO3 itself for being exactly what it is and was always meant to be accomplishes nothing for anyone.
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redheadgleek:

As yet another fanfic writer deleted all of their writing in the last couple of weeks, I wonder how many people are aware that you can disassociate and orphan your fics on archiveofourown once you’ve decided to leave a particular fandom.

“Orphaning is a way to remove your connection to your works without taking them away from fandom altogether.  We hope this account will be used by people who wish (for whatever reasons) to retire from fandom but are willing to allow their works to remain in the Archive.  Works orphaned in this way will be maintained by the Archive to be enjoyed by future fans; existing bookmarks and links will not break.  This function means that users can continue to share their contributions to fandom while having their privacy respected.”

AO3 has a great FAQ on how to do it here. 

as a reader I hope many people heed this. the idea of going back to reread one of my old fave fics and just finding it gone is a frightening one. I had that already, waybackbefore, before ao3, so please, please dear writers, use this power. please.
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theactualcluegirl:

ltleflrt:

jhoomwrites:

@ writers who want to publish original works: can we just agree that we need to start putting tags in original stuff. like after the dedications page, we have a tags page??

yes pls

It costs a publisher almost nothing to insert a TW page at the back of the book for people who really want to see what they’ll be exposing themselves to. One fucking page with the relevant tags, tucked away in a place where people who don’t want spoilers can easily avoid it, and hey presto! Everyone’s fucking happy!

*Sigh* It’s SO not that difficult…
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thebibliosphere:

nanasamantha:

evilwriter37:

IMPORTANT

[profile] flurbejurbvondurp

This is so fucking stupid. Why can’t artists and writers even give the option of pay? It’s not like anybody is holding a gun to reader’s heads forcing them to donate. It’s donated money! You’re telling me Article 13 removes people’s option to even donate???

Article 13 is causing all sorts of bullshit, but this is nothing new for Ao3 and it’s important for folk to know. Writers or anyone hosting content on Ao3 should never ever link back to a ko-fi or patreon or even mention needing donations due to legal restrictions placed on Ao3 in order to exist. If you are found out or reported, they can delete your account.

So the way Ao3 works? Is that the only way they can protect us from content creators and their legal teams, is to be like “hey, look, this is transformative work for fun! It earns no money!” And that’s how they get around what many authors still in this day and age think of as plagiarism and defemataion.

It’s actually in Ao3′s Terms of Services, not because they are monsters who don’t want you to thrive, but because it’s the only way to protect fan creators from the proverbial wolf at the door. I’m just old enough to remember when Anne Rice and Star Wars were going after people and filing official take downs for fan works and threatening to sue people. I know actual people who got real letters telling them to take down their fanzine or else.

And every time I see someone creating a patreon or ko-fi for the fanfic, my heart jumps up into my mouth. Like sure, let people know you have those things? But don’t have tiers that say things like “fanfic updates”. And for the love of god never post links to them in your Ao3. [profile] deadcatwithaflamethrower nearly lost their account some years ago because they mentioned having a donation drive on their tumblr and someone reported them.
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kyraneko:

hyrude:

ao3′s orphaning option is cool and a good idea but mostly very fucking funny. i posted this work for fun when i was younger and i still want people to be able to come back to it if they liked it, but now im an adult professional and i dont want it attached to my name. whats the word for that? umm, anonymously posting? no. i want something that indicates i murdered this story’s parents 

technically the story’s parents faked their own death and disappeared to go have an office job, and that’s even funnier
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Because AO3 is a hosting service. They don’t exist to police the content on their site as long as that content doesn’t breach the Terms of Service.

It’s an author’s responsibility to tag and rate and warn their fics appropriately. It’s a reader’s responsibility to read those tags and ratings and warnings and decide whether or not they want to read the fic. Anyone who isn’t willing to do their part probably shouldn’t be using the service.
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haberdashing:

my future employer, at an interview: hmm it says here on your resume you ‘contributed to a hugo award-winning project’

me: that’s right

my future employer: may i see your contribution

me: …no

I am.. actually tempted to do that? and, considering the zero ammounts of fucks I have the luck of giving, my answer would be yes. Which is admittedly helped along by having writen gen stuff, but enh =)
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anonymousshipping:

anotherproshipper:

naryrising:

anotherproshipper:

I’d like ao3 to know that I love and appreciate its service to the fan community

You can tell AO3 you appreciate us by sending a support ticket with whatever it is you’d like to say, using the link at the bottom of any page! We really enjoy getting nice support tickets, it makes for a pleasant change, and we anonymize them and share them with the rest of the organization, and store them for anyone in the org to view whenever they’re feeling down. 

Signed, a Support co-chair who likes having nice support tickets to read once in a while.

Hey guys reblog this version because that’s really cool!

aw this is rlly nice!
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Oh, how quickly the past is forgotten. 

They are part of the reason A03 is a thing now. Not the whole reason, but part of it. 

The Great Purges of 2002 and 2012 are when ff.net got a wild hair up their ass about THINK OF THE CHILDREN and nuked any fic posted on there that was explicit. Thousands upon thousands of nc-17 smutfics were lost.

It’s what led to the creation of alternate hosting sites for smutty fic…AdultFanfiction was the one I went to…but thousands of fics would never be recovered. 
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thebaconsandwichofregret:

justsparethoughts:

zandracourt:

shipping-isnt-morality:

Good morning! I’m salty.

I think we, as a general community, need to start taking this little moment more seriously.

This, right here? This is asking for consent. It’s a legal necessity, yes, but it is also you, the reader, actively consenting to see adult content; and in doing so, saying that you are of an age to see it, and that you’re emotionally capable of handling it.

You find the content you find behind this warning disgusting, horrifying, upsetting, triggering? You consented. You said you could handle it, and you were able to back out at any time. You take responsibility for yourself when you click through this, and so long as the creator used warnings and tags correctly, you bear full responsibility for its impact on you.

“Children are going to lie about their age” is probably true, but that’s the problem of them and the people who are responsible for them, not the people that they lie to.

If you’re not prepared to see adult content, created by and for adults, don’t fucking click through this. And if you do, for all that’s holy, don’t blame anyone else for it.

This needs to be reblogged today.

Consenting to see adult content doesn’t mean you should have to see a bunch of shit romanticizing incest and pedophilia you walnut

Except this is the last line of consent before the actual work. So if you’re at this button you have already done the following:

1) chosen to go onto AO3 in the first place

2) chosen the fandom you wish to read about

3) had the chance to filter for the things you do want to see like a specific pairing or a specific AU

4) had the chance to specifically filter out any tags you don’t want to see like, oh I don’t know, incest and non-con and dub-con and paedophilia

5) had the chance to set the rating level if you wish to remove any explicit content at all

6) have read the summary of the story, which aren’t always great but are the only indicator of what the story will be like writing wise so something about it was good enough for you to click on it.

7) have read the tags of the story which will tell you what is actually in the story. If you have used filters to remove stories with things you don’t want then there shouldn’t be anything in here that’s a shock to you but maybe there is. That’s why the tags are there for you to check for yourself.

8) Then you have to actually click on the story. You cannot see anything other than the summary or the tags without personally deciding that you are going to open and read this story.

9) Only here, at step number nine, do you get to the adult content warning pictured above. You have been through eight different steps, the last six of which have also been opportunities for you to see that this has adult content. And AO3 has *STILL* stopped you to ask one last time “are you sure you want to read this because it has things that only adults should see in it”.

If after this point you are reading incest and paedophilia then it’s probably because you specifically went looking for it.

You walnut.
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breeeliss:

i would hope this is self explanatory, but because tumblr is increasingly turning imo a bigger piece of shit as the days go on and because Instagram and twitter aren’t great formats for sharing fics….you guys really really need to support writers on ao3.

everytime you read a fic and enjoy it? leave a kudos. if you have 5 minutes free? leave a short comment (“loved it!” “great job!” “this was so funny” “amazing work”). hell, if you really enjoyed it, bookmark it. ao3 is pretty much the only platform that fandom writers can use at this point to post all of their writing and get a significant amount of engagement. it’s hard to get reblogs on tumblr on a good day, and twitter is basically only good for sharing headcanons and posting links.

engagement is the only way that we know a fic is worth continuing. if you want your favorite writers to keep updating and keep writing those fics you stay up until 3am writing, please tell us. please contribute to our stats. please rec fics. please share fics you like with your friends and followers. just rep writers as much as you can.

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