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If you tried hard enough you could probably find a justification to pronounce the name “James” as “Hammies”
The name “Hamish” actually developed in exactly this way.
(“James” has probably the broadest-reaching variants of any name I can think of. Its forms include “Hamish”, “Jacques”, “Jacob”, and “Diego”.)
Omg. Okay, could you then possibly explain how we got “James” from “Jacob”? I’ve done historical linguistics in college and I still don’t understand. It drives me nuts.
Certainly! The base form is the Hebrew “Ya'aqov”, which was interpreted in Latin as both “Iacobus” and “Iacomus”. The former branched off to become “Jacob”, while the latter became “James”. In medieval Europe, they were generally seen as Jewish and Christian versions of the same name.
Notably, many languages don’t distinguish between the two forms at all. (Even in English, there’s a history of using them interchangeably – hence the “Jacobean” reign of James II [and his supporters, the “Jacobites”].) In Medieval Spanish, for instance, the “Iaco-” prefix became “Iago”, giving us “Santiago”: literally “Saint James”. Further variations include “Diego” and “Thiago”. The French “Jacques” and Italian “Giacomo” are part of this etymological branch as well.
Tl;dr: your sons Jamie, Jake, and Diego are actually variants of one primordial son (just like your daughters Maggie, Rita, and Pearl).
Okay, but you didn’t explain the cool thing about Gaelic inflection that produces Hamish (Gaelic spelling Sheumais) as the vocative case version of Seumas. It’s not just a sound change over time, or between languages, it’s a sound change that marks grammar within a language.
(Apologiesfunereal_disease if you already knew that; I thought that your interlocutor might be interested)
Oh, I actually didn’t know that! That’s incredibly cool.
Othello, but Iago is named James.
Aladdin, but Iago is named James.
Iago T. Kirk
Iago Buchanan Barnes
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ultratangerine:
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dagny-hashtaggart:
If you tried hard enough you could probably find a justification to pronounce the name “James” as “Hammies”
The name “Hamish” actually developed in exactly this way.
(“James” has probably the broadest-reaching variants of any name I can think of. Its forms include “Hamish”, “Jacques”, “Jacob”, and “Diego”.)
Omg. Okay, could you then possibly explain how we got “James” from “Jacob”? I’ve done historical linguistics in college and I still don’t understand. It drives me nuts.
Certainly! The base form is the Hebrew “Ya'aqov”, which was interpreted in Latin as both “Iacobus” and “Iacomus”. The former branched off to become “Jacob”, while the latter became “James”. In medieval Europe, they were generally seen as Jewish and Christian versions of the same name.
Notably, many languages don’t distinguish between the two forms at all. (Even in English, there’s a history of using them interchangeably – hence the “Jacobean” reign of James II [and his supporters, the “Jacobites”].) In Medieval Spanish, for instance, the “Iaco-” prefix became “Iago”, giving us “Santiago”: literally “Saint James”. Further variations include “Diego” and “Thiago”. The French “Jacques” and Italian “Giacomo” are part of this etymological branch as well.
Tl;dr: your sons Jamie, Jake, and Diego are actually variants of one primordial son (just like your daughters Maggie, Rita, and Pearl).
Okay, but you didn’t explain the cool thing about Gaelic inflection that produces Hamish (Gaelic spelling Sheumais) as the vocative case version of Seumas. It’s not just a sound change over time, or between languages, it’s a sound change that marks grammar within a language.
(Apologies
funereal_disease if you already knew that; I thought that your interlocutor might be interested)Oh, I actually didn’t know that! That’s incredibly cool.
Othello, but Iago is named James.
Aladdin, but Iago is named James.
Iago T. Kirk
Iago Buchanan Barnes
